denied Trusted tweaks

What category does this suggestion apply to? (Discord, Forums, Other):

In-game rank (Trusted, or an alternate role with higher requirements if applicable)

 

Details/Information about your suggestion:

Basically just floating the idea of increasing the requirements for Trusted to a few days in-game playtime and overtly positive community rep, with the added ability to initiate votekick & votetempban votes for limited usage when staff are not present

 

Community benefit:

After the last few days I have noticed a trend that after around 9-10pm EST the moderation staff are almost non existent or un-contactable, leaving players with no recourse to deal with MRDM, AMRDM, etc. which also flare up in case numbers around this time. Introducing a role specifically for this purpose, or editing an already existing role such as trusted would greatly reduce strain on both the community and staff, and would also be resilient to abuse by members due to the high buy in cost of higher playtime & good community rapport.

 

I apologise if such a role already exists, I floated this question yesterday in OOC and no-one had an answer for me

-Charles Nigsworth

You basically just made what i said on my suggestion? Saying that they need to work for it xD

I'm sorry to say but I agree with you, Charles. I am a trusted member myself and when I'm online at 9 pm people go crazy. Good business for cops tho

You basically just made what i said on my suggestion? Saying that they need to work for it xD

Ah, I didn't see any posts in the suggestions thread discussing this or any from you? Not trying to steal your thunder, I don't particularly care- I just figured it was a useful idea to combat griefing. Plus, as I said I asked everyone yesterday if this had been raised and all the answers I got either said no, or that they didn't know.

ability to initiate votekick & votetempban votes for limited usage when staff are not present

 

#incident-reports and note down what the person has done and report them.

Staff inactivity shouldn't be an issue you make the users fix, because it isn't an issue at all. The staff are fairly active and especially around peak hour. They obviously wont be on during 2am times but putting the ability to votetempban someone in the hands of players isn't a good idea.

I've seen this as an ability on another server and no one used it because not only is ULX crappy sometimes but the staff were active enough.

If staff inactivity becomes a problem that's something you should report to management.

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"#incident-reports and note down what the person has done and report them."

Yeah, this doesn't really fix the issue though does it? The people will continue to either keep getting away with RDM and make players leave, or will in turn be retaliated upon and continually hunted down off spawn to avoid it happening- which makes it incredibly difficult for staff to actually see what they've done.

"Staff inactivity shouldn't be an issue you make the users fix, because it isn't an issue at all. The staff are fairly active and especially around peak hour."

9-10pm isn't peak hour, but there are still upwards of 40 people on the server at a given time, with often either no, or potentially one admin on reliably. Additionally- it is problem, and a recurring one at that, if you hop onto the server at any point past 9pm you will inevitably see either no moderation staff present, or the poor single admin who is absolutely inundated with requests for assistance.

 

I encourage you to have a look at the server around the aforementioned time slots, not because I'm trying to be a dick, just because I legitimately think you will see that a number of the statements are maybe a tad different than you remember appreciate the engagement though.

with the added ability to initiate votekick & votetempban votes for limited usage when staff are not present

 

Community benefit:

After the last few days I have noticed a trend that after around 9-10pm EST the moderation staff are almost non existent or un-contactable, leaving players with no recourse to deal with MRDM, AMRDM, etc. which also flare up in case numbers around this time. Introducing a role specifically for this purpose, or editing an already existing role such as trusted would greatly reduce strain on both the community and staff, and would also be resilient to abuse by members due to the high buy in cost of higher playtime & good community rapport.

Poseidon Servers had a system like this way back when and it wasn't really of many benefits due to a variety of reasons:

 

- Yes in thought it makes sense that a trusted can use votekick/ban as a means of LAST RESORT if no staff are online at a particular time. However, incident reporting mitigates this by allowing for it to be dealt with at a later date so you can still make an impact however the downside of course is the damage done cannot be swiftly managed.

- I think your point about the strain on staff is invalid as the trusted role should be more of a figurative rather than a legitimate enforcer. Trusted players should be able to be relied upon for rule clarification as well as providing advice to other players on appropriate means to RP and what to do if they need to seek help.

- Votekicking or banning requires competent people to be voting alongside it, most of the time when it was in place on my old server people just refused to vote because they couldn't care less or they wanted to mess with whoever initiated the vote. It is just way too unreliable.

- Also from my experience playing at 10-3am, staff like Pharam and Tuppy are still there until 3am so I think to make the point that the server lacks staff at hours post 10pm, you would need to show a consistency of consecutive staffless nights of which to my knowledge there is none.