Petition to bring back Blacklist-Button models.

Jeremy Coomeracci

Nightclub King of Orbital City
Jul 14, 2021
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With the recent change to the original map, and the 2.0 update right around the corner, many of us have noticed that the button_model glitch has been fixed. While we CAN change buttons' models to that of whitelisted props, blacklisted props are off the table.

I, along with many others, are disappointed to see this change, as the use of Blacklist-Buttons took the creativity of building to fun new places. It allowed us to create better RP builds. Gunshops with guns on racks & shelves, nightclubs with secret drug safes, apartments with good quality furnishings & decorations. The fact of the matter is, the whitelist on props is incredibly restricting creatively, though with good reason. Many of the blacklisted props could be abused by minges and griefers with little to no effort. Giant props blocking streets, fake guns placed to fool players, hell even fake money of they wanted to be especially cruel.

Despite those potential grievances, this glitch has been around for months now. We've been doing it for ages, and with little consequence. It's a niche building trick that only builders really knew about. It's unavailable to the usual minges as it requires donator or trusted to utilise, and even if a griefer buys donator it isn't exactly an intuitive technique to pick up without help at first.

My point is although you might get a couple tickets here and there, we (the building community) have proven that we can be trusted with these privileges after months of testing and will utilise them well should we be given them. Not to mention it feels like a slap in the face to us after all the beautiful builds we've provided to the community over the last few months.

If you agree that blacklisted models should be made available to us once again via the wiremod button trick, comment below and like this post. If you have any information to add (be it support or criticism), here's your chance.
 

Arcane

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Dec 27, 2021
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+1

I massively would love this to come back due to the creativity some of the people come up with like Poon Raccoon that man has some of the nuttiest bases with the custom wire buttons it's crazy and just seeing this creativity makes me believe this is what gmod is, Anyway that's my reasoning i really hope for this to come back

- Arcane
 
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Vodka Lara

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Jul 14, 2021
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+1

I’ve never seen anyone abuse the glitch, especially since only Trusted/Donators can spawn the non whitelisted props. It brings a whole level of creativity to the table and brings certain builds to life.
 
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Dexter

Player Analyst
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Sep 5, 2021
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Can someone please explain to me why we just don't whitelist more actual props that are commonly used through this method, instead of having to spawn it in as a wire_button? The wire_button method is quite tedious...
 

TerrA

Forum Administrator & Enforcer
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Jun 3, 2021
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Definitely a Yes from me, wire_button_model *custom models* definitely spark a creative incentive through the Builders community and I believe that it did not cause any lag or discomfort within the players for it to be removed, I would appreciate it to be added back and honestly confused for the real reason of it being removed, perhaps any of the roots could elaborate?​
 

Morgana

Forum Moderator
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May 12, 2021
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As mentioned above only trusted & donator can do it since it is wiremod only, There hasn't been any major "abuse" as such from these restricted models being placed for the sake of creativity, (the occasional giant tower is noted however)
 

keenu

Root
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May 30, 2021
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We we're okay with it for a while, until every second person was flying around a massive jet with their phys gun. It was kind of a one person ruined it for all thing. If people truly want it back, it can be done.
 

Morgana

Forum Moderator
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May 12, 2021
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We we're okay with it for a while, until every second person was flying around a massive jet with their phys gun. It was kind of a one person ruined it for all thing. If people truly want it back, it can be done.
*were
 

Arcane

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Dec 27, 2021
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We we're okay with it for a while, until every second person was flying around a massive jet with their phys gun. It was kind of a one person ruined it for all thing. If people truly want it back, it can be done.
just punish those who do that stupid shit, those people ruin it for others that use the wire models for proper shit. It's sad how people abuse it
 

Mythic_Gears

purple sus
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Jun 24, 2021
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We we're okay with it for a while, until every second person was flying around a massive jet with their phys gun. It was kind of a one person ruined it for all thing. If people truly want it back, it can be done.
*Cough cough* biggie smalls
 

Jeremy Coomeracci

Nightclub King of Orbital City
Jul 14, 2021
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We we're okay with it for a while, until every second person was flying around a massive jet with their phys gun. It was kind of a one person ruined it for all thing. If people truly want it back, it can be done.
That sorta thing will happen time to time. People will do dumb stuff with it like they do dumb stuff with all features available to the server. I can appreciate the attempt to stop assholes doing asshole things, just not in a way that punishes people that use it properly. I do hope you'll consider reverting the change :)
 
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TerrA

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We we're okay with it for a while, until every second person was flying around a massive jet with their phys gun. It was kind of a one person ruined it for all thing. If people truly want it back, it can be done.
Definitely would be nice to have it back but yeah as Jeremy stated, someone will definitely try to abuse any available feature in-game, as an example, from the security baton or even the taser. Not only that, players can still fly around with props by ghosting the prop and right-clicking the no collide tool, so you might want to check that one out...
 
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Mythic_Gears

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Jun 24, 2021
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Definitely would be nice to have it back but yeah as Jeremy stated, someone will definitely try to abuse any available feature in-game, as an example, from the security baton or even the taser. Not only that, players can still fly around with props by ghosting the prop and right-clicking the no collide tool, so you might want to check that one out...
What a way to tell everyone how to prop fly lmao
 
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Arily

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sri lanka
We we're okay with it for a while, until every second person was flying around a massive jet with their phys gun. It was kind of a one person ruined it for all thing. If people truly want it back, it can be done.

😏

If people abuse it just remove their trusted or blacklist wire 😱
 

Tuppy

Taser reload time enthusiast
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Jun 1, 2021
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Classic example of "one person ruins it for everyone"

One person spawns in big ass shit, then everyone starts doing it - then it's abused.

It's the same with making people small - if you make someone small to build a tiny house for some OOC fun..

Then that person runs away and thinks it's okay to go and raid people's bases while being very tiny. Stupidity.



One person ruins it for everyone - it's normally the same people, too 👀👀
 
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Tony Bigcoc

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Aug 19, 2021
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I love the idea of having them but they were removed for a reason and I think it was a correct response to the problems -1
 

aflernando

Disco Biccy Enjoyer
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Nov 11, 2021
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At the bear minimum allow trusted players to take advanted of this. By removing it, an extreamly large amount of creativity and personalisation is removed from builds